Super Bowl viewership was down this year. Was it a blip on the map? Why did the 2015 Super Bowl do so much better on TV and on social media? Michael, Jason and Laura give their take on who won the night (spoiler alert: JT didn’t make the cut).

Before Jason sits down with Doug Speight, director of the American Underground, the team talks about the coworking revolution and whether or not WeWork really has its finger on the pulse of innovation in the age of startups. Is WeWork a tech startup or a real estate company?

In the partial interview with Speight, Jason asks about the work that American Underground does to create successful businesses and startups in the Triangle and what does it actually take to be a successful startup; time and passion.